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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2010, 04:09:41 PM »

Daniel could also use this weekness to geet out of doing royal duties, and still be fine to go the sports events .. this could become a habit if not watched closely, but then Victoria has known about all this for years
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2010, 04:43:38 PM »

You know, I am all for pointing out lazy royals but the man just had a KIDNEY TRANSPLANT, I will be giving him some benefit of the doubt.
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2010, 10:37:16 PM »

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Could the wedding be posponed iF Daniel is sick again -- like a week or a couple of days before the actual wedding ?   You can't have a huge royal wedding if the groom is in the hospital...............this must be a nightmare for Victoria as well as everyone else
At the last moment could Sweden switch the bride & groom

What are the "possible" side effects from all the drugs Daniel must take

I´d say the chance, that Mary´s gall bladder would have "messed up" on May 13, 2004 already was bigger than Daniel getting ill

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Increased risk of infection is a common side effect of all immunosuppressant drugs. The immune system protects the body from infections; when the immune system is suppressed, infections are more likely. Taking such antibiotics as co-trimoxazole prevents some of these infections. Immunosuppressant drugs are also associated with a slightly increased risk of cancer because the immune system plays a role in protecting the body against some forms of cancer. For example, the long-term use of immunosuppressant drugs carries an increased risk of developing skin cancer as a result of the combination of the drugs and exposure to sunlight.

Other side effects of immunosuppressant drugs are minor and usually go away as the body adjusts to the medicine. These include loss of appetite, nausea or vomiting, increased hair growth, and trembling or shaking of the hands. Medical attention is not necessary unless these side effects continue or cause problems.


The list of possible side effects for every single drug is huge. Alone the list for Prednisolone (Cortisone)  Sweating And some describe the first months as tough (though e.g. teenagers, who aren´t all aware of the problems often show a remarkable recovery)
Within the first months...it´s usually a combi of 3 (always Cortisone...which gets though reduced fast...below Cushing dose)...later many have just one and live more or less a normal life...until the kidney fails (which is also quite different...there are ppl, who had theirs for 40 (!) years...and some lose theirs after 5 years.)

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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2010, 12:11:22 AM »

Can't Daniel pass on this kidney disease to his children?  Doesn't that make for unhealthy heirs to the Swedish throne?  Did Victoria just hold out long enough that they finally gave in, especially with Madeleine wanting to pitch a fit?

Perhaps he is sterile and CP will take over?  Wasn't he the heir for a few years anyway?  Perhaps that's why Papa finally caved...
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2010, 01:47:21 AM »

I don't think the Swedish law prevents a child with bad kidneys to inherit the throne. A sickly heir (kidney or other health problems) will certainly do harms to the monarchy. 'short-term pain can mean long-term gain', so it might not be a bad idea in a long run if they cancel the wedding.
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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2010, 08:29:24 AM »

Daniel´s disease got diagnosed by accident at 16, he was in the need of dialysis/transplantation at 35.
No one else in Daniel´s family is suffering from kidney failure. His grandparents got very old.
We now go and take a book for nephrology. We check the diseases, which can lead to kidney failure. We realise his disease is probably not that, what "congenital" actually means and it´s most likely not hereditary.

And I´ve written about 100 times, even if it would be hereditary (which is, as I´ve written UNLIKELY  ) there are ways to make sure all their children don´t get it (and many other genetic diseases neither)

After last night´s dinner, I am for other reasons for cancellation, but the aspect of "hereditary" is nothing to worry about really.
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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2010, 10:24:59 AM »

Daniel could be a real poster  boy for raising awareness of young people with chronic illnesses, transplants etc. If he ever showed up for anything!
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2010, 01:56:13 PM »

He was diagnosed with this at 16?? And still went on to be some kind of bodybuilder?? Proteine supplements anyone?? The're bloody murder for your kidneys for anyone, esp. for someone with a kidneycondition.
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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2010, 02:21:53 PM »

I like Daniel.. seems like a fighter despite his condition he is fit owns a top gym and got the princess nice IMO
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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2010, 08:29:17 PM »

Lena, it's not only about the kidney disease is hereditary or not, someone has been on drugs for years, the quality of the sperms might be (or might not if they are lucky) affected. Remember Elena's miscarriage in the summer of 2003 ? Her hubby had a stroke at the beginning of 2002. In 2003, they were in New York for his treatment. She got pregnant, four months later, the miscarriage was announced short after the annoucement of her pregnancy. Whether it was a miscarriage or an abortion, obviously the fetus didn't develope properly.
When did Vicky know about his kidney disease ?
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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2010, 01:17:37 AM »

I doubt Victoria would do all this “looking forward to start a family” talk, if she knows it will be difficult to conceive a healthy child.
Medical research is quite advanced, pregnancies post transplantation are well documented in medical literature and Victoria and Daniel have access to the best physicians, who most likely took all necessary measures and reassured them, that they will be cradling their own baby soon. And last not least I could imagine that his new kidney actually improved the situation "down under".  Cute

Regarding Elena’s miscarriage: this can have several reasons, it’s unfair to blame Jaime’s condition without knowing the medical details.
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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2010, 06:51:53 AM »

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I doubt Victoria would do all this “looking forward to start a family” talk, if she knows it will be difficult to conceive a healthy child.
I agree. There are plenty of other possible vague answers to give if she would be uncertain about it. (It will happen when it happens, etc.)
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2010, 06:32:02 PM »

Could the wedding be posponed iF Daniel is sick again -- like a week or a couple of days before the actual wedding ?   You can't have a huge royal wedding if the groom is in the hospital...............this must be a nightmare for Victoria as well as everyone else
At the last moment could Sweden switch the bride & groom

What are the "possible" side effects from all the drugs Daniel must take

Sweden is spending many millions of dollars on the wedding, they must have a plan B in the event Daniel gets sick and unable to attending his own wedding----it would cost way too much to cancel, could Maddie & Jonas take their place in June, and when Daniel is better take Maddie's winter wedding plans .......a wee bit confusing but much better than having the wedding cancelled.
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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2010, 08:45:13 PM »

Hey Lynda, that sounds like a good plan of action if Daniel is too sick to get married in June. Although logistically, they are spending a lot more money on the June wedding since Vic is heir to the throne. If they had to swap weddings, then Madelaine will actually get the bigger wedding.
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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2010, 05:30:26 PM »

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Remember Elena's miscarriage in the summer of 2003 ? Her hubby had a stroke at the beginning of 2002. In 2003, they were in New York for his treatment. She got pregnant, four months later, the miscarriage was announced short after the annoucement of her pregnancy. Whether it was a miscarriage or an abortion, obviously the fetus didn't develope properly.

And the chance, that a woman is experiencing miscarriage is about 1:10000000000000, right, Prof. dKaren?
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