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« on: July 25, 2010, 02:49:09 PM »

A new poll by the Belgian Royalty Magazine shows that Princess Mathilde is more popular than her hubby, Phillipe.

Princesse Mathilde: 39.1 %
King Albert II: 22.7%
Prince Laurent: 12.8%
Princesse Astrid : 6%
Princesse Claire : 4.7%
Reine Fabiola : 2.9%
Prince Philippe : 2.1%
Prince Lorenz : 0.6%

Which is strange as I thought Astrid was the most popular (rumours of King Albert favouring Astrid to take over), but I suppose her 6% makes sense compared to Phillipe's 2.1%
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2010, 04:02:26 PM »

Was this a scientific poll or just a poll done by the magazine with their readers?  Nevertheless, I didn't realize that Prince Philippe is this much unpopular!  What's worse it that Prince Laurent is six times more popular than he is.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2010, 04:37:46 PM »

Was this a scientific poll or just a poll done by the magazine with their readers?  Nevertheless, I didn't realize that Prince Philippe is this much unpopular!  What's worse it that Prince Laurent is six times more popular than he is.

Maybe people like watching him because he's a train wreck?  A disaster that they just can't turn away from Icecream.  That's the only reason I can think of.  Philippe is just too dull for words so I'm not surprised that his wife is more popular. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2010, 07:12:34 PM »

I think there are so many issues in Belgium, it's a fractured country to say the least, and the unpopularity of the royal family is partly an expression of the other problems that the country faces, like economic inequality and ethnic unrest. I think it's safe to say that the only thing holding the kingdom together is Albert being King, I doubt very much that Philip will last on the throne, he is disliked and ridiculed so it will be a perfect situation for republicans to move ahead with their agenda.

In my opinion, the criticism of Philip is not entirely justified. He was practically raised by his uncle, who, despite having been beloved, would now be completely out of touch with modern Belgium. I have heard from Belgian people (from the Flemish side) that Mathilde and Phillip are seen as strange, different and boring people who don't share the values of the majority of their future subjects. This may be true, but imo that should not disqualify Philip from being king, the position is not that of an elected official whose job is gained through popular support, a king should be above politics and not be part of the daily sway of public opinion, the flavor of the month to put it that way. In my view the most important traits a monarch should have are sounds morals, personal dignity and good character, charm and charisma come second.  A lot of the negative press comes from republican elements, particularly in the Flemish region, so they magnify what they see as Phillip's shortcomings, mainly his lack of ease in front of the cameras and a certain awkwardness in large crowds.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2010, 11:02:43 AM »

I think there are so many issues in Belgium, it's a fractured country to say the least, and the unpopularity of the royal family is partly an expression of the other problems that the country faces, like economic inequality and ethnic unrest. I think it's safe to say that the only thing holding the kingdom together is Albert being King, I doubt very much that Philip will last on the throne, he is disliked and ridiculed so it will be a perfect situation for republicans to move ahead with their agenda.

In my opinion, the criticism of Philip is not entirely justified. He was practically raised by his uncle, who, despite having been beloved, would now be completely out of touch with modern Belgium. I have heard from Belgian people (from the Flemish side) that Mathilde and Phillip are seen as strange, different and boring people who don't share the values of the majority of their future subjects. This may be true, but imo that should not disqualify Philip from being king, the position is not that of an elected official whose job is gained through popular support, a king should be above politics and not be part of the daily sway of public opinion, the flavor of the month to put it that way. In my view the most important traits a monarch should have are sounds morals, personal dignity and good character, charm and charisma come second.  A lot of the negative press comes from republican elements, particularly in the Flemish region, so they magnify what they see as Phillip's shortcomings, mainly his lack of ease in front of the cameras and a certain awkwardness in large crowds.

There is also the "little" fact that his Dutch is absolutely terrible, as is Mathilde's...
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2010, 12:47:00 AM »

There is also the "little" fact that his Dutch is absolutely terrible, as is Mathilde's...

As far as I know, they are both fluent, but they have a very thick French accent and that is what Dutch-speaking Belgians dislike. Apparently Mathilde is not a good speaker, she has a high voice and poor diction, so it isn't simply about language. I wonder if she had a speech impediment as a child, it might have influenced her career choices before her marriage, didn't she have her own speech therapy practice when she was single? Their children attend a bilingual school, in fact all the children of the royal family are being brought up to be fully bilingual, as they should be. I hope children in the Flemish regions get to learn French too.

In my opinion the issue of language has become politicized and it isn't simply about national identity. If Mathilde and Philip spoke flawless Dutch, something else would be criticized, maybe they would be called fake and calculating, because the criticism comes mainly from separatist groups and media, whose aim is to further their cause and they use that as a means to their end. It's not a little issue obviously, because they get slammed for it all the time, but personally, and speaking frankly, I find the idea that language is the sole identifying characteristic of a people to be small-minded and totally out of tune in the global age. You are what you are, regardless of what language you speak, and I say that as an American who was born in a Hispanic country, learned French as a child and English as a teenager.
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