"The Danes are bullying my father"

[Charlotte]

Now that Fred has come around to his mom and dad, I hope to see the same with his brother. 

[Nattie Lite]

Fred is correct that Henrik is picked on too much, but you know, at this point it's been happening for nearly 45 years and there is nothing for him to gain if he is actually whinging about it.

I agree, and I've actually always stood up for him a bit (about the language bit at least) which is perhaps why it really bothers me with this "the Danes are bullies!" thing. He could have said "my father has been very unfairly criticized by some/a lot of people", but no, he has to go and make it about "the Danes", also illustrating quite obivously that he considers himself apart from that group.

I agree with both these statements.  Some of the treatment Henrik has received has been a bit unfair, but (1) much of it is water under the bridge at this point, and (2) Henrik ceded any high ground he might have had when he had his hissyfit in 2002 and the family had to chase after him to France to soothe his wounded pride.  The photos that resulted from that made him look small (metaphorically speaking), and made me embarassed for the family for having to indulge him that way.

And while it's nice to know that Fred cares about the treatment of his father, I also find it off-putting that the future king of Denmark refers to "the Danes" as if he isn't one.  That would be like me referring to "the Americans" I live and work with as if they are some lowly people separate and apart from myself.  It's so condescending. 

 

[Cece]

I also find it off-putting that the future king of Denmark refers to "the Danes" as if he isn't one. 

A question to our Danes here: The article quotes Derf as saying "danskerne", which translates to "the Danes", but would it have been as correct for him to say "de danske" or "danskere" ("Danes")? That doesn't 'feel' right, if you know what I mean. Maybe he said it because it is the only correct way to say it? Insight, please! There is so much subtlety to Danish!

[Nattie Lite]

I also find it off-putting that the future king of Denmark refers to "the Danes" as if he isn't one. 

A question to our Danes here: The article quotes Derf as saying "danskerne", which translates to "the Danes", but would it have been as correct for him to say "de danske" or "danskere" ("Danes")? That doesn't 'feel' right, if you know what I mean. Maybe he said it because it is the only correct way to say it? Insight, please! There is so much subtlety to Danish!

Great question.  If he simply said "Danes," I would feel better about the quote.

[Jazzy]

shosh, I'd imagine Fred is impotent in the face of Mary's horrible treatment of Izzy so it's easier for him to take it out elsewhere.

However, this new book on Henrik, which is the source of Fred's whinging, looks interesting. There may be some good goss on Mary in there, too. All between-the-lines sort of stuff, of course, but easily discerned for those who may have the propensity!  

Maybe he stood up for papa because he knows Danes might turn onto his wife and he doesn't need that aggro(you know how Mares takes what the media writes very seriously according to Derf.An unhappy Mares= hell at home .

Henri though acknowledges that he's had problems with Danish(his vocabulary though is extensive) and understands why Danes criticise him. He admits that it was a big mistake he didn't learn the language(he is proficient though and can communicte but has a strong French accent and diction)
http://politiken.dk/kultu...at-jeg-ikke-laerte-dansk/

[Louisa]

I also find it off-putting that the future king of Denmark refers to "the Danes" as if he isn't one. 

A question to our Danes here: The article quotes Derf as saying "danskerne", which translates to "the Danes", but would it have been as correct for him to say "de danske" or "danskere" ("Danes")? That doesn't 'feel' right, if you know what I mean. Maybe he said it because it is the only correct way to say it? Insight, please! There is so much subtlety to Danish!

"Danskere" would be grammatically okay, but sounds a little strange. My point is, he didn't need to emphasize the nationality, it would have been just as correct - and much less condescending - to say "min far er blevet mobbet/bliver mobbet". Saying "danskerne" makes it about the Danish people and automatically includes all Danes

[Jazzy]

I also find it off-putting that the future king of Denmark refers to "the Danes" as if he isn't one.

A question to our Danes here: The article quotes Derf as saying "danskerne", which translates to "the Danes", but would it have been as correct for him to say "de danske" or "danskere" ("Danes")? That doesn't 'feel' right, if you know what I mean. Maybe he said it because it is the only correct way to say it? Insight, please! There is so much subtlety to Danish!

"Danskere" would be grammatically okay, but sounds a little strange. My point is, he didn't need to emphasize the nationality, it would have been just as correct - and much less condescending - to say "min far er blevet mobbet/bliver mobbet". Saying "danskerne" makes it about the Danish people and automatically includes all Danes

Could it be he said it to emphasise the fact that they will always see Henri as a foreigner and never one of them?
He says the Danes view Henri as a clown and a monster...
In any case I think Derf speaks without thinking about the impact of his words.Eg that comment about not being able to afford the twins-can be taken as a mockery of Danes... Though i dont think he meant it as such.He's like a big kid IMO with entitlement issues.

[Nattie Lite]

I also find it off-putting that the future king of Denmark refers to "the Danes" as if he isn't one.

A question to our Danes here: The article quotes Derf as saying "danskerne", which translates to "the Danes", but would it have been as correct for him to say "de danske" or "danskere" ("Danes")? That doesn't 'feel' right, if you know what I mean. Maybe he said it because it is the only correct way to say it? Insight, please! There is so much subtlety to Danish!

"Danskere" would be grammatically okay, but sounds a little strange. My point is, he didn't need to emphasize the nationality, it would have been just as correct - and much less condescending - to say "min far er blevet mobbet/bliver mobbet". Saying "danskerne" makes it about the Danish people and automatically includes all Danes

Could it be he said it to emphasise the fact that they will always see Henri as a foreigner and never one of them?
He says RDers view Mosh as a clown and a monster...
In any case I think Derf speaks without thinking about the impact of his words.Eg that comment about not being able to afford the twins-can be taken as a mockery of Danes... Though i dont think he meant it as such.He's like a big kid IMO with entitlement issues.

I have more fun reading your quote that way.  LOL!

[Jazzy]

I also find it off-putting that the future king of Denmark refers to "the Danes" as if he isn't one.

A question to our Danes here: The article quotes Derf as saying "danskerne", which translates to "the Danes", but would it have been as correct for him to say "de danske" or "danskere" ("Danes")? That doesn't 'feel' right, if you know what I mean. Maybe he said it because it is the only correct way to say it? Insight, please! There is so much subtlety to Danish!

"Danskere" would be grammatically okay, but sounds a little strange. My point is, he didn't need to emphasize the nationality, it would have been just as correct - and much less condescending - to say "min far er blevet mobbet/bliver mobbet". Saying "danskerne" makes it about the Danish people and automatically includes all Danes

Could it be he said it to emphasise the fact that they will always see Henri as a foreigner and never one of them?
He says RDers view Mosh as a clown and a monster...
In any case I think Derf speaks without thinking about the impact of his words.Eg that comment about not being able to afford the twins-can be taken as a mockery of Danes... Though i dont think he meant it as such.He's like a big kid IMO with entitlement issues.

I have more fun reading your quote that way.  LOL!

LOL
A for you.

[Jazzy]

Funny, the son is whining but his papa is accepting of the situation and says:
At the top of the social pyramid, one cannot avoid being exposed to a little of everthing from the press's side. The royal house is not treated the worst by the press. When I see how politicians have it, then I  have to state that we don't have it so bad in this house(royal)

"På toppen af den sociale pyramide kan man aldrig undgå at blive udsat for lidt af hvert fra pressens side. Og så vil jeg endda mene, at kongefamilien ikke bliver værst behandlet af pressen. Når jeg ser, hvad nogle politikere må finde sig i, så må jeg konstatere, at vi ikke har det så slemt her i huset."
http://www.berlingske.dk/...ter-hoerer-med-til-jobbet
I can understand that Derf feels for his daddy, who wouldn't feel sad that their father is often criticised by the media, but then again as Henri says , it comes with the job!

[hanzo1]

but Isn't that the same prince that screamed at a journalist that he works all the time?  

I guess Lene has taught him a new mantra  

[Cece]

Could it be he said it to emphasise the fact that they will always see Henri as a foreigner and never one of them?
He says the Danes view Henri as a clown and a monster...
In any case I think Derf speaks without thinking about the impact of his words.Eg that comment about not being able to afford the twins-can be taken as a mockery of Danes... Though i dont think he meant it as such.He's like a big kid IMO with entitlement issues.

That's kind of where I was coming from, Jazzy. Knowing that "the Danes" see Henrik as apart from them, as opposed to a part of them, and that distinction creeping into Fred's perception of the situation.
I agree with the second part of your post. Fred misspeaks regularly, but I don't think it's malicious. We'd get more snark about Mary if so!!

Thank you for your response, Louisa - and for posting the article! Still love your yummy avatar! 

[Charlotte]

I don't see anything wrong with speaking with an accent.  So many speak English with an accent and nobody has a problem with it.  The Danes and other states need to get over these accent issues.

[pixiecat]

Dear Freddles,

Buy a dictionary and look up the definition of the word bully.  You will see (if you can actually read) that your father is NOT being bullied.  He might be criticized, but he is most definitely not being bullied.

Now shut the f$*k up and quit whining.

Kthanxbai!
Toodles,
Pixiecat

[Hester]

http://politiken.dk/kultu...danskerne-mobber-min-far/

Can't believe this article hasn't been mentioned yet. Frederik is whining about the Danes giving his dad a really hard time and saying that it is embarrassing for Denmark. He actually comes across as 1) despising the country, 2) despising its people and 3) apparently not really identifying as a Dane.

Makes me even more    about having to pay for his upkeep!

You know whose voice this is? MARY. It ain't Fred talkin'. Mary is feeling mobbed and paranoid herself, is projecting it, and to me this is evidence that Frederik has no mind of his own. For goodness sake, Margrethe, get rid of Fred and get Jokke and Marie into the Kronprinsparrett role! Or get rid of Mary!